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Evolutionists/atheists- where did the information contained in the first living thing come from?

  • ok so atheists and evolutionists, if u are right about life coming from non living things (dont see y u believe that the odds are 1 in a trillion trillion trillion billion) where did the genetic information contained in the nucleus come from? the instructions inside DNA the information to do life funtions such as reproduce? if you are an atheist, please share with me where it came from i want to hear opinion.


  • We don't know. The fact that we don't know doesn't prove God. In fact, using deities to explain away things that people don't know or understand is a common form of ancient superstition. E.g. why does the sun rise? Because a god in the form of a giant dung beetle rolls it across the sky (Ancient Egypt). Well we know NOW that that isn't the truth, don't we!


  • we dont claim to know we just havent found the answer yet. oh and in an infinite universe odds are irrelevant


  • The field of biology that you should be looking to for these answers is not evolution, but abiogenesis. There are a few plausible theories as to how life might have evolved from non-living matter, but a complete and conclusive picture has not yet emerged.

    The evidence for the theory of evolution, on the other hand, is conclusive. Many particulars have yet to be resolved, but the overarching processes of evolution can be as confidently affirmed as anything else we know as a result of modern science, such as the existence of gravity or germ theory of disease.


  • nutrient soup! they evolved slowly, becoming more and more complex over the four and a half billion years.

    you're right, the odds are very low. but four and a half billion years gives you an awful lot of time to try things out tho.. look at the technology which has been created in only you're own lifetime! bacteria alone can reporduce every 20 minutes.. this would mean they could get through 2,366,769,447,000,000 generations..

    however, it seems equally illogical to me that some people believe that, rather than evolving, the world was produced by a man who lives in the sky.


  • 1. Evolutionists and atheists are not the same thing
    2. Ask an atheist a question in the Religion & Spirituality section
    3. You are living up to your half of your name. Go back to sleep in science class. Don't worry, you can get all your misinformation from Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, which seems to have a powerful affect on the weak minded.


  • Evolution does not attempt to explain the origins of life. Please at least get your facts straight before you go on a rant.


  • I have a better question.. where do YOU think the instructions and DNA discovery came from?


  • Sure. No problem. I'll share with you my exact thoughts when people ask me a question like this. My answer is quite often the following sentence:

    I don't know.

    See how easy that was? Instead of making up a fairy tale, I just admit that I don't know. Now, because I am willing to admit that I don't know everything, I am free to relax and go about my day, instead of persecuting people with other belief systems. It's wonderful. You should try it.


  • Have you heard of the Miller-Urey experiment?

    Two scientists replicated earth's early atmosphere by putting water, methane, ammonia, and hydrogen gas in a sealed, sterile flask. When they added an electric spark, hydrocarbons started to form. After a week of running this process, they had a brown slime that contained various organic compounds, including some amino acids.

    I think the experiment produced about 6 amino acids. Nowadays there are 20 different amino acids commonly found in most living organisms, but life would have been much simpler at first, and these 6 would have formed the genetic code of the first organisms.

    There are some other theories about how life developed from inorganic matter, but the point is that it's definitely possible. Once you have life, evolution is pretty much inevitable.


  • My inability to answer every question about how things came to be does not mean that there must be a super natural being (God) that did it. Your question reversed proves that. If there is a God that created everything, where did this God come from?

    Your argument strategy is flawed if you mean to conclude that evolution does not exist because we do not fully understand its processes. Also, by attempting to disprove an opposing argument, you do not automatically validate your own. You must validate your argument by proving it, not disproving the counter argument.

    Also, you are attempting to compare a scientific process with faith. These two things can exist together and are not mutually exclusive. Don't confuse the how and the why.


  • First of all, Atheists are not stupid, or at least not any more idiotic than the next person. I am not atheist, but i'm not religious either. I'm not convinced that God exists, but i'm open to the suggestion that He may. So you are wondering about genetic information and the evolution of life i'm assuming. Prokaryotes were the first forms of living species (that we know) and they actually didn't contain a nucleus or any other membrane-bound organelles.

    I would think it's somewhat silly to not agree that evolution exists to some extent. The main problem is that being the dominant species we are, we seem to grasp the idea that we are special. Certainly in the domain of intelligence, but certainly not in performance-like physical attributes.

    So you're wondering why all these crazy evolutionists/atheists are too senile to believe that God just dropped humans on the face of the earth. Well let me ask you a question. What about animals? Did He just form them as well? If so, it surely doesn't coencide with the evolution and extinction of animals.

    Nobody can explain the beginning of beginning. That's like trying to hypothesize the notion that if you reach the end of space, what happens next? Nobody knows and we'll probably not be around long enough as a species to ever find that out, certainly not your time or mine.

    It's absolutely possible that life could have formed from non-living things. Life is just simply a term for an action that happens. Can you explain why mathematicians are unable to completely solve pi? That doesn't mean that pi doesn't exist. It means that we are human and some things currently are unexplainable.

    To further continue, be realistic and think reasonable. The bible was written by man, not by God. It was not interpreted by God, at least there is no concrete evidence that suggests so. We as humans look for meaning and when we can't explain things, we search for an external answer. We find this in religion. Religion itself is also as evil as it is good. Sunni's and Shiate's have been destroying eachother for hundreds of years. Evangelists such as Benny Hinn pray on people in search of hope and last resort, while he crooks their hard earned money, desperate from answers and miracles. There are many great points to religion though, but the stories are not to be taken literally. Science and technology is slowly pulling away from religion. Thousands of years ago, nobody could prove the writers wrong.....science wasn't "evolved" yet.

    I'm not suggesting what you should be or follow, but keep in mind that many possibilities exist to your question and it is a fantastic question by the way. I think we all wish to find the exact answer ourselves.


  • good question


  • Considering RNA can act as a self-replicator and can even catalyse its own reactions, I'd say it wasn't an information storage system initially but developed into one when it was necessary.

    Looking at the system, it's not that hard to work out how it could happen and why DNA arose as the successor of RNA due to its better integrity.


  • My guess is the first living thing all those guzillion years ago was god, sitting around all those guzillion years designing us humans. And he still didnt get it right, just look at that scumbag who lives up the street from you. This brings me to ask where did god come from?


  • They don't know and they will never know until they either die or have to admit that we all came from GOD.







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